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Thursday, May 14, 2015

Oatmeal Patties

As an Adventist I grew up in a vegetarian community; an SDA ghetto if you will in Keene, Texas. For a long time you couldn't buy meat hardly anywhere in the city. You had to drive five miles to Cleburne five miles away to get a hamburger.

My grandmother who was a cook at Southwestern Adventist college where she worked magic with vegetarian substitutes, some commercial and some the ladies just made up.  Any vegetable protein you could think of seemed to form the basis for local vegetarian cuisine. One ingredient in particular found it's way into everything from bread to "patties".  Oatmeal.

Oatmeal is an Adventist staple. Oatmeal forms the basis of many Adventist vegetarian main dishes. When I say oatmeal is versatile, I mean you can throw all sorts of stuff into a mixing bowl with oatmeal and fry it up. This version is a kind of clean out the leftovers version. If I'm out of vege-meat, these oatmeal patties are my fall-back. Here's how you make them:

Patty Ingredients:

  • 3 cups rolled oats, instant or regular oatmeal (it all works)
  • 1 can cream of mushroom soup
  • 1/4 cup vegetable oil
  • 1/4 large onion chopped
  • 1/2 cup pecan meal or slivered almonds (optional)
  • 1 tsp soy sauce
  • 1 package Lipton Onion Soup mix
  • 2 eggs
Gravy Ingredients:
  • Handful sliced mushrooms
  • 1/4 chopped onion
  • 1/2 package of Lipton Onion Soup
  • Leftover oil from frying patties
  • 4 tbsp. flour, (for the gravy)
  • 1 cup Water
 Directions:
  1. Pour the oil in a skillet and preheat it while you make up the patty mix.
  2. Mix together all the patty ingredients in a mixing bowl. Note: you don't have to have pecan meal. If you have pecans or walnuts, just whiz them up in the blender till they are the consistency of meal. The pecan meal really kicks up the protein levels in the dish. You can add soy sauce or leave it out and just go with the pecan meal for flavor. I recently tried slivered almonds when I didn't have pecan meal and it's amazing. Really great flavor.  I've even added leftover cottage cheese and sour cream (or onion dip) and given them a little pizzazz. Some crushed Special K Cereal is nice too if you like. The recipe is very flexible. The trick is to get the consistency of the mixture right so that the patties don't fall apart. If you add too much extra stuff you should add an extra egg or some of that new Vegan egg replacement that just came out.
  3. Once you've got the patty mix prepared, form the mixture into balls and place the balls in the skillet and flatten them with a spatula. Allow them to cook until brown and flip them over to brown on the other side. 
  4. Set the patties aside. They make pretty good vegeburgers as this stage. To complete this as a main dish, you need to make the gravy now.
  5. Turn down the heat a bit under the oil. Toss in the chopped onions and carmelize them by cooking them slowly on low heat. Takes about 15 minutes or so, but well worth the time. After the onions are about halfway done, add the mushrooms.
  6. Next, sprinkle a handful of flour into the skillet with the oil, mushrooms and onions. 
  7. Turn up the heat a little and lightly blend the flour into the oil until it starts to brown. Add Lipton Onion Soup and water, stirring constantly till the gravy forms. Stir until all the lumps of flour are absorbed.
  8. In a Pyrex casserole dish, spread out the cooked patties and pour the gravy over the patties.
  9. Place the dish in the oven at 350 degrees and bake until the gravy bubbles. 
  10. Now you can work on the rest of the stuff to go with it while the oatmeal patties bake. 
Conclusion:


These go well with anything that would go with vege-burger, hamburger or most any vegetarian meat substitute. The wife usually makes mashed potatoes and corn. Baked potatoes, broccoli and a salad are also nice. Throw in some homemade bread or wheat rolls and you've got a lovely meal.

Leftover oatmeal patties make nice sandwiches or vegeburgers too. I love leftover oatmeal patty burgers.

Enjoy.

(c) 2015 by Tom king

176 comments:

  1. This was obviously before the days when canola oil was discovered to be a GMO product.

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    1. Maybe they've changed it but when I read the recipe it just said vegetable oil - non specific. So you can use extra-extra virgin cold-pressed olive oil if you wanted - or organic non gmo coconut oil

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    2. You are correct. The recipe calls for vegetable oil. I like canola because it's a mono-unsaturated oil, but I also love olive oil in this recipe to. Gives it a nice flavor. I use olive oil whenever I have it. Technically olive oil, being plant based is a "vegetable" oil.

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    3. Oh, good grief, can't people use some common sense and just say thank you to you for giving us this nice recipe and make changes as necessary for themselves when they prepare it? Thanks for all you do! Jill

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    4. LOL Exactly Jill (Anonymous)!! People stress out over the most ridiculous crap! Thanks for the recipe reminder Potluck Vegetarian!! :D ..... See Juliana? How hard is that?! SMH

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    5. I totally agree...all the picking everything apart gets annoying after awhile.

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    6. Dear Juliana, there is nothing inherently wrong with GMO products. Nor is there anything wrong with you choosing not to go GMO. What is wrong is if you believe all of us who do use GMO products are unenlightened in some way. There are enough real things to fret about, so, please, just relax.

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    7. There is organic canola oil which is not GMO.

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    8. Hi Tom,
      LOVE THIS RECIPE. Thank you for sharing. For ever one complaining about the oil BAKE PATTIES DON'T FRY, THEY TURN OUT GREAT. Also I make my own Mushroom soup for milk allergies.

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    9. Delicious, but very unhealthy.

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    10. Very unhealthy? A little strong. I mean there isn't any kale in it, but for a healthy balanced diet it's a fine source of protein.

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    11. Just found this on Facebook, and will be trying it. Just don't understand all the negative remarks. If you don't like something just substitute! I don't care for the mushroom soup, so I use cream of celery; I cannot tolerate garlic, so if a recipe calls for it I use onions, which I love! Hang in there, Tom!

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    12. Absolutely Lilly. If you read carefully, you find many places where Ellen White makes specific comments about diet that only apply to specific people. Where she advises someone not to eat "largely of nuts", she was likely talking to someone who had some difficulty with digesting nuts. In places she spoke against alcohol in all forms, but in one particular obscure reference she recommended a little wine for someone's stomach ailment. That's why I try to keep this blog kind of loose. Vegetarians can be a persnickety lot. So, as you and I have both said, you can always adapt the recipe to suit your particular dietary prejudices.

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    13. Fond memories, my daughters loved the patties. Lots of allergies in my family, but this recipe can be adjusted to ones liking. Thanks for sharing.

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    14. Tom, your comment helps to bring balance. Thanks.

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    15. Made these today. Very delicious! Thank you for posting.

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  2. I usually don't post comments of this sort because I want this to be a cheerful and happy website. That said, I went ahead and published the comment, which was meant in the best of spirits I am certain. I want to take this opportunity to, one last time clarify the mission of this website. This is not a militant vegan website. This is not a place to air evil conspiracy theories about food. I don't freak out over the GMO issue. I embrace lacto-ovo vegetarianism. I don't have a problem with people who are only partial vegetarians or those who eat fish. Jesus ate fish. Anyone who says different is in denial.

    As to the GMO issue, any hybrid or selectively bread animal or plant is technically modified genetically. It is an ancient practice. Jacob (the patriarch) did it with sheep and made himself wealthy when Cousin Laban tried to cheat him. The data isn't consistent in showing that GMOs have negative health effects. If that changes I will likely alter some recipes, but until then, I'm not going to get into a rancorous debate with the "vegetarians-waiting-for-the-coming-of-the-Lord" crowd. I kid you not, I knew someone who described herself in just those words. We do not get to heaven by being vegan, although we may be vegan because we happen to be going to heaven. Strict veganism does not make one holy. Too often it does the opposite. If one uses ones veganism to excuse harsh, judgmental and arrogant behavior, it can produce in a person traits that were not found in Christ.

    In the meantime, I shall continue to celebrate potluck food in its many lovely presentations. Potluck food may not always be the healthiest versions of various vegetarian dishes, but remember it's supposed to be feast food; celebration cuisine. Potluck food makes grouchy people happy (if only for a short while). It makes hungry people not hungry. It gives young people the energy to do what young people got to do. It makes old Adventists like me smile and with my old knees, long ago damaged in the service of my Lord, anything that makes me smile these days is something wonderful.

    And not all Canola oil is made from GMOs, so don't freak out. I have, however, in deference to some of my brethrens' tender sensibilities, changed Canola oil to "vegetable" oil in the recipe above.

    And, as Forrest Gump would say, "That's all I've got to say about that."

    Tom

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    1. Good answer. I don't get all the hype over GMOs.

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    3. Proud of you Tom for saying it like it is!!! Hold tight my brother and bring on those good old recipes......I love them.

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    4. Thank you Tom. I go to the Winterset, Iowa church when I can. I am a truck driver, and don't get home much, and we have fellowship dinner every SABBATH . These patties are made by a lady there, and it is my absolute favorite.

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    5. Thank you Tom. I go to the Winterset, Iowa church when I can. I am a truck driver, and don't get home much, and we have fellowship dinner every SABBATH . These patties are made by a lady there, and it is my absolute favorite.

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    6. This recipe is a mainstay around my house. It can be modified many ways, adding or taking out anything that suits or doesn't suit you. As for any health issues, ask God's blessing upon what you eat, and enjoy. Many people have no food, and they certainly wouldn't care about some of the issues that are posted.

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    7. My husband grew up in Keene. His father was a Bible Pastor there....Elder Lewis. My husband's name is Spike Lewis...I wonder if you guys knew each other...

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    8. I didn't know Spike, but I knew M.D. Lewis' daughter Adenah.

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    9. Well said, Tom King. A great recipe for spiritual life!

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    10. My word! It’s amazing how righteous people will get over the ingredients in an oatmeal patty!! This is a fine response, and good for you.

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    11. Thank you for the recipe Mr. King, gonna make it Sabbath for potluck using Canola oil. Sorry that people get their panties wadded up over small things; perhaps they are of the Pharisaical group. Hope the professor above feels better, sounds like he needed to get some technical things off his chest like it was a burden to carry. Blessings to you! I will come here for more recipes! Thank you!!

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    12. I finally did delete the angry GMO rant. It just made a really unpleasant kind of negativity to what I hoped would be a positive sharing of great SDA food. I'm kind of trying to collect some of the best from SDA cooks from all over the world. I've had some really good stuff shared with me and I wanted to share it with you all.

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    13. My husband's family is from Keene TX. They grew up eating these patties every Sabbath.

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    14. Back in the '80's when meat prices were high, I was newly married to a Naval Officer and we were relocating from South Carolina to California. We stopped to see a fellow shipmate and his family in St Louis. They had three children. For dinner we were served what we thought were hamburger patties in a mushroom gravy, mashed potatoes and a salad. The patties were DELICIOUS. And I much preferred their texture to the standard dense hamburger patty - imagine my surprise when I learned they were oatmeal and mushroom patties....Long story short, I now eat very little beef for digestive reasons and have been hunting for this very recipe. So happy to have found it. THANK YOU

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    15. Greetings
      I have tried this recipe and my family loved it.
      I am writing please if you have any more recipes?
      Thank you in advance
      Best regards,
      Sandra

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    16. Thank you for a wonderful recipe I had lost since my days in Keene 1971 Gwyn

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    17. Some people need to take a chill pill ! Especially some of us Adventists ! Nothing we have today in food products are as they came from-the-hand-of-God, so everything in a sense is GMO nowadays. Common sense seems to be a rare commodity these days.

      Anyway, I just found your website today when I was looking online to compare oatmeal patty recipes, which I grew up with in Loma Linda. I look forward to browsing more of your website's treasures. Tom from northern Minnesota. ♥️

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  3. I've just seen your blog for the first time and LOVE it! Sheila, your oatmeal patties look absolutely scrumptious, and I've clearly come home from the names of recipes I'm seeing. Good old SDA comfort food. :D

    Tom, I appreciate the interesting comment on GMOs, although I am one of those who leans towards the "label so we have a choice" side of the fence. I've seen a few of the loudest naysayers be first in line and pile their plates the highest with potluck foods without discrimination.

    A hearty amen to your description of what potluck food does for people!

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  4. This is fun! I've been looking for an Adventist cooking blog!

    Do you have a Facebook prescence one can "like" to get new postings when available? Thanks!

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  5. Glad to have you. I have a Facebook Author's page you can follow for updates at:

    https://www.facebook.com/ghostwritersinthesky?ref=hl

    You can also subscribe directly to this blog and get email updates whenever something new is published.

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  7. Mushroom or cream of mushroom soup?

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  8. Thanks for spotting that. Cream of Mushroom, of course. It's THE SDA casserole mainstay.

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    1. Except for those who cannot eat mushrooms (allergic). Seems like every dish at potluck has mushrooms. What could be substituted for mushrooms?

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    2. You can substitute cream of chicken, but then it wouldn't be vegetarian. I suppose you could substitute cream of potato soup in a pinch, or make up your own gravyish sort of substitute. The beauty of cooking is that there is so much room to be creative - a little olive oil, water and flour seasoned with McKay's chicken or beef seasoning could step in nicely for the mushroom soup.

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    3. We use Cream of Celery soup instead of Cream of Mushroom mostly because my husband doesn't like mushrooms.

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    4. Cream of Celery, or Cream of Onion soup works very well in this recipe. You can also make your own version of cream soup. There are many recipes out there for condensed cream of ... soups.
      Personally, I am not a fan of mushrooms, and use the onion or homemade soup subs. They work very well.

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    5. Loved all the casseroles growing up, but all that cream of whatever contains an ingredient called MSG. Some folks tolerate it just fine, while others, like myself, suffer horrific migraines from ingesting it. We didn't realize that it contained msg or that it could trigger migraines when I was a kid. There was no medicine for pain relief back then either so one just suffered through it the best they could. I had LOTS of them. Once I learned about various triggers though, I am mostly migraine free these days. If one has time, it's fairly easy to produce homemade condensed soups, thank goodness.

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    6. I can't use cream of anything soup because of the milk...I'm lactose intolerant. I make my own cream of WHATEVER soup with unsweetened soy or almond milk (plain, not vanilla), arrow root powder (it dissolves better and quicker without lumps), and whatever vegetarian or vegan flavoring I can find. I made a white gravy with this "Bakon" powder and Stripples for biscuits that turned out wonderful!!!

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    7. It's very easy to make homemade milk gravy with substituting plain almond, cashew, soy, etc milk that is vegan.

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  9. I forgot about Cream of Celery. That would work.

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    1. Hi Tom, they also have a cream of poblano which gives it a different twist. Love your posts and recipes.

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    2. Hi Tom, they also have a cream of poblano which gives it a different twist. Love your posts and recipes.

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    3. I have never seen Cream if Poblano..it sounds very intriguing!

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    4. The beauty of the Oatmeal patty recipe is that it's kind of a blank slate. Seasonings are everything. You could go Southwest, Italian, Cajun and even French with the right sauces. The French are all about the sauces. If I can ever find Cream of Poblano soup, I'll have to try it. I'm big on mild peppers anyway. I often sniff Bell peppers in the produce section. People think I'm weird.

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  10. As much as I love healthy vegetarian cooking, have you thought about the contents of the canned mushroom soup or the packaged Lipton soup? The sodium or the other additives? Read the labels; surely we can find some better options.

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    1. I made this recipe WITHOUT the soy sauce and used 1/4 cup dried onion flakes, 1/4 tsp each onion powder and parsley flakes, 1/8 tsp each celery seed and paprika for the onion soup mix. Came out very well. Brought it to potluck and left with an empty dish. There are many ways to adjust this recipe to your own liking. Be creative!!

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    2. Go ahead and find a better option. Salt doesn't bother me. The Bible says salt is a good thing. It's other things that make salt problematic. You can always leave it out or find something else to put into it.

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  11. Sodium is salt. Scripture says salt is good. Salt is not what causes high blood pressure. Salt aggravates high blood pressure if you already have high blood pressure. It's not a causative factor. Overweight and lack of exercise are more to blame than anything. Reducing your consumption of high fat, high cholesterol meat products will do you far more good than worrying over a little soup in your casserole.

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    1. Salt does not always cause high blood pressure, some people like me have low sodium in their body and need salt. Why oh why do we need to pick apart a beautiful patty? Go somewhere else to be argument I am just so happy to find this site. We are all God's children, let's act like it.

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  12. Thank you for sharing this recipe. I haven't had these in quite awhile. As a former Keenite, we occasionally ate Sabbath Dinner at the College cafe so I may have tasted some of your Grandmother's oatmeal patties before. :-)

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  13. Tom, thanks for this site!! It has some recipes that Mom used and I can't read the recipe anymore it is so old and stained.
    Katie Ann Towerton Lamb

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  14. Nice to read a recipe site written by a middle-of-the-road food person instead of a rabid vegan. I'm quite capable of substituting a can of vegeburger in place of a pound of hamburger in the meat recipes; I am equally capable of substituting cashew milk gravy in place of Campbell's if I have guests coming who are rabid vegans. Duh.

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    1. Not all vegans are rabid. Only those who have been bit by a mad dog or rabid wild animal. ;)

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  15. Thank you Judy. One of the things I like about the Adventist version of vegetarianism is that its practical and celebratory. I think half of the reason SDAs live longer on average is that we're happy about the way we eat and don't all feel like we need to belittle others or force people to be militant vegans. Vegetarian food is, for us, a celebration. A lot of the meat substitutes we use were developed by a returned missionary, Dr. Harry Miller who borrowed from Chinese cuisine which used soy, gluten and tofu-based products with lots of veggies. The companies he founded produce frozen, dried and canned products which are easy to use and which supply plant protein aplenty. And, as we point out in so many of our recipes, if you have the basic structure of the dish, a little experience will help you modify the dish to suit the proclivities of some of our more delicate vegetarian sensibilities. I personally prefer vegetarian food, especially the kind the little old ladies shove into tupperware containers or casserole dishes and bring to potluck. In college, my best friend and I used to ride around on his Harley every weekend to whatever church had a potluck going that week. These wonderful ladies actually would get offended if we only at one helping. We ate like a pair of anacondas and then we didn't need any food until next weekend. We had to take a nap, of course, before we road back to keep it between the ditches. Ah, potlucks. Without them we'd have starved while we were in college.

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  16. Tom, just found this site because an SDA friend posted the recipe for oatmeal patties. She and I went to Keene and reconnected at Homecoming this year. \My grandmother raised me and I lived in Keene all my school years and she made lots of casseroles and veggie burgers (which I love) but I don't have the recipes so I'll be joining this blog. I also worked at the school cafeteria (even though I was a "village kid") during Mrs. Cromwell's time there. Would you mind sharing your grandmother's name as I thought I might know her. Thanks, Beth Findley Fischer

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    1. My Grandmother was Mabel King. She worked there in the 50s and maybe the late 40s.

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  17. Tom, I just saw your grandmother on your home page (I think). I knew her well. She and my grandmother were good friends and they claimed to be relatives somewhere down the line. Barbara and I went to school together. I used to go see her and Adolph when I went down to see my grandparents. It is indeed a small world because of the internet. Beth

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    1. If you're related to my grandmother, then you're related to me Beth. Good to hear from you.

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  18. Thank you, I enjoy.

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  19. Love this and my oat meal patties are legendary!!! LOL...for those worried about everything...oat meal is so versatile it will respond well to anything and still be good. I stopped using egg, cheese and soups...bind with water just amped the garlic powder and onion powder, threw in some green pepper, sometimes a dash of Braggs and sometimes nutritional yeast, add parsley...yadda, yadda, yadda...do what works for you...the recipe as posted is delicious...adapt, modify, move on...

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    1. Which is the point of the style we use here. Fanatical vegans are as guilty of serving their bellies as a standard plan glutton. CS Lewis wrote about an old woman who was so picky hostesses dreaded to see her come. She never wanted to eat what was placed before her, but demanded just the smallest piece of plain toast. She firmly believed that because the demand was for something simple and inexpensive that she was somehow demonstrating her simplicity and goodness - no matter what extra work the hostess was put to. We, as cooks, hosts and hostesses and guests, should serve our fellows rather than our prejudices and desire to show off our piety.

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  20. A small point -- you mention the option of using EVOO (extra virgin olive oil) if one wishes. Of course it will work just fine, but most experienced cooks or kitchen managers would find the added expense of EVOO unnecessary as compared with ordinary grade olive oil. Many people do not understand that EVOO is the equivalent of better Belgian chocolates, or more expensive wine, or any other foodstuff where there is a premium grade made especially for direct consumption. When olive oil is being used in bulk in a recipe, and is not being used in way that you'll directly taste the raw oil, ordinary olive oil (much less expensive) would usually be fine. Your recommendation of coconut oil is excellent also -- a particularly healthy oil that has become much more common since Costco started selling it as a Kirkland product (*smile*).

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    1. I was being a bit sarcastic when I mentioned EVOO. I meant you can use whatever you think best. No need to get huffy about what kind of oil. I'm with you, Randy. Not that big a deal. The perfect oil going down the gullet of a sour human being doesn't do him much as much good as vegetable oil going down the digestive system of a happy person.

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  21. I started adding Peanut Butter in my oatmeal patties after reading abt someone else doing it and so I tried it and wow it's good.

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    1. That sounds tasty. My grandmother used to make a delicious peanut butter loaf.

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    2. Hi Tom,
      Lv this site!
      Do u hv the recipe for ur g'mas peanutbutter loaf? Would LUV to hv!

      Does anyone hv a recipe for "Protost" type product? Or a replacement recipe for "Sovex"? Wish we could get Southern SDA Univ. to start making it again!
      Thx, Nanci(Flier-Todd)Williams

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    3. Nanci - Someone posted a version of Peanut Butter loaf on the thread above this comment. Haven't tried it yet. When I do, I'll post it with photos on the regular blog. I have another one too that someone gave me. I'll try them both when I get the chance.

      Not sure if anyone has an alternative for Sovex. If I find one I'll post it.

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    4. Hi,
      Not being exactly "PC Savy", what does "posted in the thread above" mean? Trying to access "Peanut Butter Loaf" recipe.
      Thx
      Nanci Williams
      >dpnme247@gmail.com<

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    5. Nanci,
      If you scroll up the page on all the comments on this recipe (that's what a "thread" is - a string of comments) you will find, Actually, the recipe seems to be belo9w this one. Just to make it easier, here's the post with the PB loaf recipe:

      GRANDMOTHER WILCOX PEANUT BUTTER LOAF
      4 slices of bread toasted and rolled into crumbs
      1 can diced tomatoes
      1 onion
      1 1/2 c chopped celery
      3/4 c peanut better
      2 eggs
      2 tsp butter
      1 tsp sage
      Cook tomato, onion, celery, PB,butter for about 20-30 minutes in skillet. Add eggs and crumbs. Pour in a bread pan and bake 350 about 45 min. (another recipe says 30 min?!)

      Bon Appétit!

      KJ

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    6. Loving all these comments and recipes. My grandma Marie Bechtel had many wonderful recipes would make her own gluten steaks...which are a family favorite tradition carried on by my mom Arlean James Bechtel and now by my wife Evangelina Perez-Bechtel. I remember grandma used to make a lite brown gravy that she added peanut butter to and it was so good. That is the only way I, to this day, will eat peanut butter!
      Tom, I am glad you are not one of those militant vegans...very refreshing and delightful. Keep up the good work. -. Pastor John

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  22. I am wondering how many average sized patties this recipe makes. Look delicious. Thank you.

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    1. I usually get about eight, a good size casserole dish's worth.

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  23. Thank you for this recipe and wonderful insights. As an "old" SDA raised in Battle Creek, on good ole veggie food, I love potlucks. It breaks my heart to see well meaning people using diet as their way to salvation.

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  24. I made the peanut butter loaf as a kid. put the batter of it in an empty can and steam on top of the stove. Does anyone have the recipie?

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    1. Yes,I can help you with that. My cousin made it for me this summer when I was visiting her. I forgot how good it is and it is better cold on a sandwich the next day!! This is my grandmother's version.

      GRANDMOTHER WILCOX PEANUT BUTTER LOAF
      4 slices of bread toasted and rolled into crumbs
      1 can diced tomatoes
      1 onion
      1 1/2 c chopped celery
      3/4 c peanut better
      2 eggs
      2 tsp butter
      1 tsp sage
      Cook tomato, onion, celery, PB,butter for about 20-30 minutes in skillet. Add eggs and crumbs. Pour in a bread pan and bake 350 about 45 min. (another recipe says 30 min?!)

      Bon Appétit!

      KJ

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    2. There is a recipe called "Nutmeat" in the Vegetarian Cookery 3 cookbook, p. 21, that Pacific Press put out in the early 70's. It uses similar ingredients, but not identical, ingredients to the Tomato and Peanut Butter loaf, and is cooked in a can in a pressure cooker.

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  25. Sitting in a cold office (50 degrees is nippy for Riverside CA) and reading this recipe made me salivate in a wonderful way. YES YES YES thanks for posting this, your amusing and insightful side comments, and your enduring patience. Oatmeal-fueled patience!

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  26. I'm so happy to have found your website! This recipe looks delicious and I can't wait to try it. We are plant-based other than eating eggs occasionally (due to having our own chickens who insist on laying them anyway); however, I'm used to tweaking non-vegan recipes to accommodate our lifestyle and will find a substitute for the cream of mushroom soup. Thank you!

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  27. A friend of mine was asking for a recipe for the oatmeal patties he remembered from potlucks. I remembered them with delight as well, so started looking in my old cookbooks for a recipe. Surprisingly, only found 1. So googled and got your web page and this one sounds good. Will certainly pass you blog on to others. KJ

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  28. Someone suggested adding peanut butter to the recipe. I slipped some in and my wife complimented me on my oatmeal patties. She's one of those people with a discerning palate and getting one past her taste buds is doing something. I just threw in a scoop of PB on top of the rest and mixed it up. Worked great. I did cut back on the oil just a tad because the peanut butter has oil in it.

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    1. I wondered if you could substitute peanut butter for the oil. Would you use all peanut butter (for the oil) and no oil if you were baking rather than frying the patties before making them into a casserole?

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    2. Peanut butter might sub for the oil. Never tried it. The recipe is pretty forgiving. Mostly the oil is used to fry it all in. If you try it, let me know how it works out.

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    3. I did try the peanut butter substitute and they were really good - nutty and with the pecans, walnuts or whatever nut meal you used (I once used slivered almonds), it has a pronounced nutty flavor that I like very much.

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  29. Do you know if Sovex is made any more?

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    1. Sadly, Sovex has been out of production for a few yrs now, & as of 2014,u cant get an honest answer as to why they havent restarted production! It was being made by the Southern ABC Store, but was shut dwn by the health dept. for mold in a batch. Since then it goes back & forth as to why its still dwn-because of management @ ABC Store,because prez of SDA University-but noone can say why! Ive personally hv spoken to both "bosses", & they only blame each other!
      I miss it soooo much! Nothing else settled an "iffy" stomach, or ur taste budd, as much as Sovex on dry toast!
      I accidentily came up w/a "sort of" replacement" a couple of yrs ago. A little nutritional yeast w/a little Bragg's Aminoes, a drip of peanut butter-dont ask me amounts, couldnt tell u-& some water. Not too bad.

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    2. There is a Sovex-like product you can buy on Amazon called "Marmite". It is a yeast extract like Savorex and Sovex. Tom (SDA)

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  30. Haven't seen any in a long time Judy. I found this address for the company now located in Collegedale.

    https://start.cortera.com/company/research/k3r9sqn8l/sovex-natural-foods-inc/

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    1. The company listed in Tom's above entry has been out of business for many years. As far as I know, the product--Sovex--has not been produced for a very long time.

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    2. That address was from early last year. They were still making some for a while. I imagine they're gone now. Not many using Sovex anymore.

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  31. Wish there was a print button for your recipes.

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    1. You can always highlight what you want to print then go to Print and Print Selection and it will print what you have highlighted.

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    2. I'm going to work up all my recipes into a cookbook eventually, but for the website, I think I'll make pdf files of each page and post them on Google Docs or something where people can load the recipe and print it. Shouldn't be too difficult if I can just get the time. - Tom

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  32. You know that's a good idea. Let me work on that. I may be able to put a link to a Word file in Google Docs or something. Give me a bit to work on that. At some point I want to do a book anyway. Thanks for the suggestion.

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  33. I'm glad I found this page. My hubby is lacto vegetarian and Im a vegan (not fanatic about leather and all that stuff) I love these recipes and look forward to modifying them simply because dairy products clogs my system. I enjoy your candid sense of humor and gets a good belly full of laughter to go with the meals when I start preparing them. Wish it was easy to print.

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  34. Going to try this. Need a dish for Sabbath potluck.

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  35. Tom, is there a can of mushroom soup in the gravy as well as the patties? I skimmed through the replies, and it's implied. There wasn't enough gravy for a 9 x 13 with just a cup of water. Your gravy in the photo also looked a lot lighter than mine. I'd already poured my gravy over the patties, so I just spread 1 can of mushroom soup over my gravy and stirred it up over the patties LOL!

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    1. That's one way to do it. If you'll look at the ingredients list, the gravy is made separately like regular gravy with flour and oil and the seasonings indicated. If you don't want to go to the trouble of making gravy, you can use mushroom soup. The recipe is nothing if not adaptable. Step 7 describes adding flour and water in the traditional gravy-making manner. A cup of water is just a start. And I don't put a lot of gravy over the patties anyway so they don't get too soggy. Sorry if that was confusing. It makes a lighter flour and oil based gravy. - Tom

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  36. Simpler. 1 cup rolled oats. 4 eggs. 2 cups rich broth made up of whatever you like. Olive oil as needed. Mix eggs and oats together. Heat oil in frying pan (about 2 -3 tbsp. depending on size of frying pan). If the pan is small, you will have to transfer the patties to a separate plate while cooking the others. Start temperature to heat oil at high, then reduce to medium while frying. Once you're finished frying all patties, return all to the pan and reduce heat to low. Pour in broth, cover and cook until broth is cooked away. I usually use plenty of salt and flavor in the broth to be sure the patties are fully flavored.

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  37. Just found your post, lots of memories around the Oatmeal Steaks, or "Mushroom Patties" as we called them. So sorry about your son, one of the hardest events in life, I think. My husband died 13 months ago, and I too am trying to learn to live a new life, and adjust to a huge loss. Thanks for the recipe and welcome to the Pacific Northwest!

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  38. David Ladely

    I used to become upset with arrogant, presumptuous and sanctimonious individuals who felt they had a mission to educate less intellectually endowed others and champion peripheral issues despite an invitation.

    No longer. I have calmed myself with the understanding that people with this inclination may well be obtuse and self-aggrandizing; however, there might just be a point despite their condescension.

    I recall the fervor with which gelatin and rennin sources were debated with considerable contention decades ago. I lost my appetite for dining in certain social contexts for quite a time.

    The effect of such heated contention was akin to salting another's well. It wasn't as much about sharing as it was about vanquishing. One may be correct and a steward of fact. The operation may be a success but if the patient dies, does it still count?

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    1. Examining this excrement is the most capricious deuce I've unceasingly heeded🤣😂

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  39. As a Christian I believe that if you guess wrong on a minor point of doctrine, there won't be a big burly angel bouncer waiting at the Pearly Gates to say "Gotcha". In the same way, I don't really care about those who would take minor points of "nutritional" doctrine and turn them into Vegan hair-shirts in order to prop up their own egos and prove their veganity is more powerful than others vegetarianism. I like good food. I like things that'll give you a few more healthy years before you drop face first into the cottage cheese loaf. Jesus said not to worry about what you eat or what you wear, but to focus on the kingdom of heaven. This website is supposed to be fun and about traditional SDA potluck fare. For those with an ax to grind, please take it to the woodshop. Just sayin'.

    Tom

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  40. Is the oil in the recipe for frying or does it go in the patties??

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  41. I remember Mom making these, usually for Sabbath dinner. She'd make them Friday afternoon and put them in the fridge. Then she'd put them in a warm oven on our way to church. They'd be done when we got home. DELICIOUS! Sure do miss her cooking.

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  42. My mother in law taught me how to make oatmeal patties, I love to share them. She made her gravy with mushroom soup, I strain the mushrooms out of the soup, I don't care for them. I am glad we can buy mushroom soup without MSG. They are so easy to make and my family enjoys them. There are so many different ways you can make them. This is the first time I have seen this web site. Thank you for sharing your recipes.

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  43. Oh man, I know what I am having for dinner tonight. My mom used to make these also. She had eight mouths to feed and for the longest time we were vegetarian. Some of the ladies at potluck used to make them but they stopped, they are so good! Subscribing btw!

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    1. Glad you liked it. If you have any good recipes of your own, send them and I'll try them out.

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  44. Someone asked how many oatmeal patties this recipe makes. I get about 8 out of it. It rather depends on the size of the patties you make, though. Could be a couple more or a couple less. - Tom

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  45. I love the oatmeal patties. I have been looking for a good recipe for some time. The recipe was made as stated except I thought the oil was used for frying. They turned out wonderful anyway.
    There were so many comments about the oil, but no comments from those people about how good the patties were. Strange.
    By the way, I fried 18 small patties, then baked them in the oven with the gravy. Didn't have any mushrooms at the time, but the gravy was great anyway.

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  46. It's a very forgiving recipe with lots of room for error and experimentation. There are more than a few comments about how good they were. Most SDAs already know how good oatmeal patties are so they don't say anything about it. It's a given.

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  47. Tried this for the first time tonight. It's pretty good. Can't believe I'm eating fried oatmeal. (smile) My hubby and I just shared a patty and both agree that it is tasty. It was great plain. I did not make the gravy yet but suppose that I will since the first part is so good. I look forward to trying some more of you recipes.

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    1. Glad you enjoyed. I made up a big batch of these last week w/o the gravy and froze them. You just pull however many you want out and heat them in the microwave for a minute or two. Easy quick supper.

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  48. To make BROWN GRAVY: Put 2-4 cups (or more, depending on how often you plan to use it) of white flour in a dry iron skillet on medium heat. Once the flour gets warm, turn heat to low, esp. on an elec. stove, as flour easily scorches/burns if not stirred almost constantly, preferably with a flat, metal spatula. After the flour is browned to your liking, let it cool, remembering that residual heat in the iron will continue to brown (& burn) the flour for about 5 min.. The browned flour can be stored in the fridge for many mos. in a covered container, ready to season & use as needed. A stainless steel skillet can be used but even with a metal ring under the pan, the flour will more easily scorch/burn. Stirring is VERY important.

    Mrs. Chester Holt taught me to make this in Jan. 1954 in San Antonio, TX, at the SDA War Service Center, (next to the SDA Church on W. Ashby Place) where service men & women from Brooke Army Hosp., Ft. Sam Houston & other nearby military bases could come to stay, eat & fellowship on Sabbath or their times off. She & Pastor Chester A. Holt lived there as residents in charge. I had to keep 300 donuts & 2 kinds of muffins baked & in the freezer at all times! Mrs. Holt did the major cooking for the Sabbath guests.

    I was a new SDA when Mrs. Holt gave me the "Homemakers Cookbook & Guide to Nutrition" published in 1946 at Southern Publishing.

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  49. I believe Lipton onion soup mix contains dried beef broth. Not vegetarian. Any other suggestions besides the soup mix?

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  50. Nope. Here's the ingredients list:

    Onions, Salt, Corn Starch, Sugar, Corn Syrup Solids, Caramel Color, Hydrolyzed Soy Protein, Partially Hydrogenated Soybean Oil, Yeast Extract, Monosodium Glutamate, Natural Flavors, Disodium Inosinate and Disodium Guanylate.

    Soy protein, not beef. Rest easy.

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  51. can almond meal be used instead of pecan meal? marv

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    1. Shouldn't be a problem. You could make almond meal, walnut meal and throw some mixed nuts in there if you wanted I suppose. This recipe is easy to get creative with.

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  52. I remember my mom making a Special K loaf for potluck lunch after church. Has anyone heard of this and/or have a recipe? Joining this thread from Toronto, Canada.

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    1. Here you go!

      http://potluckvegetarian.blogspot.com/2015/05/cottage-cheese-loaf.html

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  53. My mother makes these patties still. Sometimes with mushroom soup gravy ( Which I prefer) and some times after the patties are cooked she pours a Jar of stewed tomatoes over it all and stews it for a while.

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  54. Sounds good! I would just substitute flax or something else for the eggs. And cook the mushrooms really well.

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  55. I made these patties today. However, I did not put the oil in the patty mix as I thought the oil was for frying. However, even though I made a mistake by not including the oil in the mix, they turned out to be very, very delicious.

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    1. Oatmeal patties are very forgiving. I throw in slivered almonds sometimes, or walnuts or pecans chopped up. One guy up above puts peanut butter in his. I've tried it and I liked it.

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  56. The word "natural" is over-rated.

    Death is natural.

    Sharks, puffer fish, and poison ivy are all natural.

    Scientific illiteracy is dangerous and rampant. Science is just a method to determine the truth. Science has the facts about GMOs. Educate yourself from credible scientific sources.

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    1. P.S.I came here for the recipes and will be trying the oatmeal patties. They sound delicious. Unfortunately for us, every single food website that involves a specific dietary restriction (esp. vegetarian) ends up having scientifically illiterate propaganda in the comments sections.:(

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  57. Fortunately, it's easy to avoid the comments section and stick to the recipes. I've advocated a reasoned response to conspiracy theories, GMO hysteria and vegan militancy in this blog. I've tried to make it about familiar friendly potluck recipes. The discussions always pick up comments from Sister Bertha Better Than You. It's a hazard of blogging.

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  58. Do you cook oats first , or use it dry

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    1. Mix it in dry. Baking cooks it.

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    2. This is one of the best threads I’ve read in quite some time! Thanks to all.

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  60. I just have to say that I love your site!! I found it because I was looking for a cottage cheese loaf recipe. Raised vegetarian, went away from it for a while, and now I'm back, and found oatmeal patties too!!!! I've always loved vegetarian potluck food!! And your site is wonderful. Thank you so much for the work that has to go into this. I have found, over the years, that if there is something in a recipe I don't care for, well, just substitute. Again, thank you....you now have a new subscriber!

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  61. I stumbled upon this site when I googled Oatmeal Patties to see if it came up with anything. What a wonderful site! My Oatmeal Patty recipe has crunchy peanut butter in them and sovex which I can no longer find. I'm guessing you can substitue soy sauce. Will continue to read your blog. God's blessings for your work!

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  62. I have been looking for this recipe for over twenty years. My Granny, also Seventh Day Adventist, used to make them all the time, but she called them Proasts and always put walnuts in them

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  63. I just 💖 oat patties 😋
    Do you add the can of soup just as is or do you add water as per can🤔 also the onion soup mix ...just sprinkle it in or actually make the mix per instructions 🤔thanks ..
    SABBATH BLESSINGS...hugs 🤗

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    1. Just dump the soup in for the gravy and the Lipton onion soup mix just pour it into the patty mix.

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  65. On the GMO debate, it is pretty simple. You have to ask why are the plants Genetically modified? There is only one reason. It is to make them impervious to herbicides (plant/weed killers), most notably Round-up (glyphosate). Glyphosate is linked to cancer and other diseases. Prior to GMO, certain plants would succumb to Roundup, after modification, farmers can use Roundup without a worry to the crops. We end up eating that herbicide in virtually every thing we consume. This is the main reason people eat organic.

    Top GMO foods (high levels of glyphosate), and percent of crops most likely to use Roundup: Soybeans (94%); Canola Oil (93%); Corn & Corn Oil (88%); Cottonseed Oil (90%); Sugar Beets (95%).

    Look for Non GMO labels.

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  66. I'm a Seventh Day Adventist no one can take that from "ME" for any reason,including but not limited to insignificant pastor's that come into and blow through a community in a year or so,seeking their righteousness and hoping to add jewels to their crown i truly wonder how that's going to work out for some of them,or if they even have or had any idea or even care that were the deciding factor that drove someone out of the S.D.A. organization (not the church or religion) I will not deny God the father the son nor the Holy Ghost, or Christianity even if it were to bring on my death. I chose to be baptized into and remain in the Seventh Day Adventist faith, (not the organization) again that can't be taken from me by any earthly power. I was born into the Seventh Day Adventist faith, and raised in the Church and organization. I attended a Seventh Day Adventist Jr. Academy for eight years, my first year I believe was in a school that encompassed grades one through eight, there may have been a ninth or tenth grader on the other side of the curtain I'm just not sure, yes a curtain is all that separated grades one though four from the other grades that year in a back room of the chapel that belonged the Jeffersonville Indiana Church(I don't believe a building is the Church)I don't think there was an average of two students per grade at that time, there may have even been empty grades.The other eight years were spent at South Eastern Jr. Academy in New Albany Indiana grades one through four had a room,grades five through eight had their own room,grades nine and ten had a room of their own also,I think the largest enrollment of students was fifty five that number had started waning by the time I left after eighth grade graduation.
    Back in nineteen sixty six when I started school at five years old there was no concept of obsessive compulsive disorder, or attention deficit Hyperactive disorder, even dyslexia was swept under the rug, I think the explanation they gave me was you read words backwards that wasn't much help. I was labeled as little heathen that just refused to live up to his potential. So when the seventh week of a nine week period rolled around and I was four weeks behind in my work book's (consistently) they would when I arrived at school in the mornings immediately heard me into the kitchen isolated from the rest of the school with the exception of an occasional teacher and the principle, my breaks and lunch were at different times than the other students the only contact I would have with my classmates until time to go home was when one of the four girls that was the balance of my class would sneek a few words of encouragement through the door, it was locked so no one without a key could open it,they all seemed to manage a turn in the four days it would take me to get caught up, even with a gas stove wooden matches and my wondering mind as distractions. I guess the upside of this was I became a fly on the wall to the adults,they didn't care what I saw heard or"understood" witch was every thing!the deceit pettiness and hypocrisy that I witnessed from clergy educators and upstanding members of the Church was so
    confusing and upsetting because it was contrary to everything that all of these people were teaching me or preaching to me. The positive comments about this recipe gives me hope but the pettiness over the vegetable oil in the ingredients and not just saying thank you and modifying it to their liking reminds me of how so many in the Seventh Day Adventist organization feel the need to beat you over the head with their ideas until you accept them or shove it down your throat until you choke on it, this makes it hard to even want to go to services and is a large part of what keeps me from wanting to rejoin the Seventh Day Adventist organization,I was warned before given this site for the recipe that I might get more than I bargained for "Go Figurer"





















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    1. We go to church to contribute what we can to the worship of God. The church was once pretty hard on mental illness largely because we didn't understand it and we aren't very good at healing demoniacs (not that I'm saying anyone is an actual demoniac). Jesus always healed the mentally ill first before telling them to go and sin no more. We're getting better at being kind to those who struggle. I've got ADHD big time. You should see my resume'. Still with God's help our house has managed to do some good in the world.

      We don't join a church because we want the church to take care of us. If you get a lot of people in church who do that, you get a miserable church. If you can manage to pull together a large enough group of Christians who see their role in the church as active and choosing to do all they can to make the church a loving, kind and Christ-like place, then you get a church that is a joy to be in. But you have to do that work. You can't go in and wait to see if someone is going to offend you. You be the kind one. A woman in my church had what I call the "gift of hugs". You didn't get past the front door without being hugged. I used to sneak past her and she'd come looking for me and give me a hug anyway. That sort of militant love changes a church no matter who is the pastor, head elder or deacon. The Adventist church is a wonderful church, especially if you are a wonderful member.

      We don't have to let the militant "vegetarians waiting for the coming of the Lord" cast darkness over the church. We must be the light that clears away the darkness.

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    2. I hope the Adventists enjoy their worldly, porkless, vege diet. They promote a satanic inspired, lying prophetess, yet claim to keep days holy. Pure bull excrement according to James 2:10. Beware their deceiving, sin-drenched ways!

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  67. The recent roundup link to cancer applies to individuals with long term exposure during application. There is no proof or even mention of the product remaining on food that reaches the consumer.

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  68. For appearance, protein and flavor, I crushed some canned black beans and added them while creating these as vegeburgers. It gave them that look of ground beef and it didn't impeded the burgers holding together. Give it a try if you have some that are looking for a more "beef hamburger" look. The flavor was great too.

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  69. Thank you for a delicious recipe!!

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  70. I'm trying to find a recipe for a "white" spaghetti dish with some sort of veggie meat in it. The sauce has sour cream in it and I'm not sure what else. I had it at a memorial service luncheon and the woman who made it said the recipe was in the red Loma Linda cookbook, which I can't find online, for love or money. Do you happen to have any idea where I can find the recipe? It was sooooo delicious, but I tried to contact the lady who made it afterwards and she was very secretive about it...as if I'd bring it potluck at her church one day. I don't even live anywhere near her church! Sorry, tmi. Thanks for letting me know. retrochicky85@yahoo.com

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    1. Sounds like some kind of Alfredo sauce. Pretty easy to make with canned milk and Parmesn Cheese. Just add alfredo sauce to spaghetti. All kind of ways you can doctor it up.

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  71. Very tasty, I have made this recipe a few times. I omit the nuts and add more liquid, of various sorts. Thank you!

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  72. Hi Tom!! This is my first time on your blog..I have already bookmarked it! I was not brought up SDA but became one at age 13. Best decision I ever made! Love the Oatmeal Patty recipe. I have one similar in my recipe box but will soon try this one. It is amazing how an innocuous blog about vegetarian food becomes a battle ground!! Seriously??Like others before me have said, if you don't like something in the recipe change it to something else...this world has gone nuts!!!! Love and hugs from Calistoga Ca!!

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  73. Hi there,
    The patties are just like my mother use to make.
    Now I am looking for the recipe for the Fri-Chik Salad with crispy Chinese noodles.

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    1. Actually, you can crumble up a package of Ramen noodles to put in your salad. That's all you have to do.

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  74. It did not say canola. Use cold pressed olive oil if you like! Also, I use Harvest Vegetable Bouillon Mix Mushroom Flavor instead of Lipton soup, and mix it into one can Thai Kitchen Coconut Milk (which has the consistency of heavy cream) when serving vegan friends. I use 2 T of flaxseed ground in a little coffee grinder and omit the eggs for them as well. It’s all good! Just play with it. If you don’t use oil simmer in a tiny bit of water, but watch it closely!

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  75. Thank you so much!!
    Mama made these. I don't think I've had them since we lost her.

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  76. This is very interesting content! I have thoroughly enjoyed reading your points and have come to the conclusion that you are right about many of them. You are great.
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  77. This is an epic recipe, actually the one that introduced me to your blog years ago, and I'd like to share it to Facebook, but I can't find the links.

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  78. Tom,

    It's not so many jewels like these around on the Internet.

    I sure wish the SWAU chefs made this at the time I was there.

    Thanks for posting this.

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  80. I feel a lot more people need to read this, very good info!
    Buy mushrooms online

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    Love how it turned out.
    Thanks for posting!
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  84. Thanks Sheila and Tom was my Favorite growing up Adventiwst.
    Always enjoyed different dishes at Potlucks. Thanks for the old memories

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    1. Jesus commanded His followers to NOT be deceived, but SDA's deceive everybody around them, and themselves, that they keep days holy in spite of promoting a very false she-prophet, against Jesus' command against such in Matt 7;15-23. They are very antichrist, actually idolators who worship an 1844-concocted "jesus".

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  85. Had friends in JR high who where SDA and been trying to recreat this since the 80s.Thank you

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  86. Thank you so much for this article!! I went to Chisholm Trail Academy so I know all about Keene, TX!!

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